Baking For Business Podcast

#Ep 66: Balancing Multiple Talents And Gifts With Singer, Actor And Baker Latrice Pace

Chef Amanda Schonberg Episode 66

If you have ever wondered how to juggle your multiple passions then today's guest is sharing the scoop. Latrice Pace is a gospel music artist, theater actress and also a bakery business owner.  Best known as a member of the world-renowned gospel group Pace Sisters, Latrice brings us into her world, revealing the behind-the-scenes of her bakery business, Treecie's Treats, and her latest music release, Exodus: The Journey Of Obedience Vol. 2. 

In this episode we will cover:

  • Tips for managing multiple businesses/talents
  • How to respond when others are doing things you want to do
  • Effective time management tips for your daily operations
  • Balancing weight loss while being a baker and so much more


So, whether you're a fan of gospel music, a budding entrepreneur, or simply someone who appreciates the art of balancing life, get ready to be inspired.

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Book mentioned As A Man Thinketh by James Allen

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Speaker 1:

Hey, sweet friends, my name is Chef Schaumburg. I started my baking business with the bottle of DeCerono and one Bundt Cake Pan. Fast forward to today, from news to magazines, speaking on national stages and more. I can truly say that baking has changed my life. So now, as a bakery business coach, I get to help others have the same success. I've helped hundreds of my students across the world in my global membership program create six-figure businesses, mainly from home. The Baking for Business podcast is an extension of that, from actionable tips to valuable tools and resources that can impact you as a business owner. I truly believe y'all. We would never have been given a gift if we couldn't profit and prosper from it. So come on, darling. What are you waiting for? Hey, sweet friends, and welcome back to the Baking for Business podcast.

Speaker 1:

I'm so excited to interview today's guests. Like many bakers, street makers or even, honestly, entrepreneurs in general, we all have multiple gifts, but how exactly do you balance all those gifts and talents? Well, today's guest is Latrice Pace, and if you are a gospel fanatic, like I am, the name Pace may sound familiar because she is one of the members of the world-renowned, infamous Pace Sisters, which is an amazing and legendary gospel group. So being around music is not just her only superstar talent. Latrice Pace is also well-known in theater. She currently just wrapped up shooting the Wiz down in Atlanta. But aside from that, she is also a baker, you guys a gospel singer, a theater artist and a baker, and she's here with us today to talk about all these amazing talents and gifts. So welcome to the podcast, Trice. How are you doing today, beautiful? I?

Speaker 2:

am well. I'm so excited. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1:

You were more than welcome. So just for anyone who does not know, just give us real quick a brief overview of the Pace Sisters.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow, okay. So I grew up in a family with all of my sisters nine girls, one boy never a dull moment. There was always a moment of either singing or preaching, or talking or laughing. There was never a dull moment in the house. I'm so fortunate and blessed. My mother used to always tell us you don't need any friends, you have nine best friends right here. And that's how we that's literally how we grew up. Like I have nine best friends. So that's how it was.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome. That's amazing. And so, being a member, you guys traveled, you guys have sang all over the States. Your songs have been on the Billboard charts, gospel music awards, on and on about the Paces. If anyone does, that's like real old school gospel, yes. So, out of all that, when did you start yourself recording a solo and doing your music?

Speaker 2:

I didn't start the solo journey probably until maybe about six years ago, because I was just, you know, really involved with my sisters and got quite comfortable in the background, until I knew that you and you, when you have that calling, you know that when that time is right, like something is just pushing you, like it's time to do this, you're not at peace, you're not at ease with doing anything else. Until you get that out of you and I had some friends to come to me and say, hey, it's time for you to do your own thing. And I was like you know what, I know you're right, and I just prayed about it and God gave me all of my songs, he gave me how to do it, when to do it, all of that. So I only, I've only been doing it maybe about six years as a solo artist.

Speaker 1:

And you actually just released an album. Yes, it's coming out just last week. So, it's still new, so tell us about the name of your album and what inspired you to write. The second volume of Exodus, yes, okay.

Speaker 2:

So Exodus, the journey of obedience. So Exodus did the first part, released it in 2019. And when it became time to release the other half because we did all of it then but just only released half I was like what do I name it? And I really felt led that no, our obedience is a continuous thing. It's never an end result or a destination. So it was like volume two and if you go back and listen to it just in your own time, you'll realize volume one is just me, reminding people of who God is, and then volume two is making you aware of who he is to you. It makes it more personable. So I was just so excited about it. That's why I decided to name it volume two, because it's just a continuation of what he has called all of us to do.

Speaker 1:

I love that. And speaking of being called to do things, so, aside from being in the music industry for over 20 years and now promoting your own album, you also are a cottage bakery owner. So, I can imagine it's hard to really cover 20 years everything you went through, but I know during that time, as an artist as well as entrepreneurs, lots of different ups and downs. So what inspired you to start baking?

Speaker 2:

I started really in like 2011 or 2009, sometime around there, when my sister gave my late sister Nisi, the one that would come into house singing to everybody. She gave me her red velvet recipe and I ended up doing it for a fashion show for one of my cousins and the people there went crazy. They were like this is so good, you should do this. And another girl say, yeah, you should name it Tracy Treats. And I was like that has a ring to it and I started baking, got really busy and had to, like, put it to the side, but when I went through this compounded grief this like three years, three years season of morning, I ended up finding therapy or just healing and getting back in the kitchen and chicken kitchen and baking again. So that's how I ended up where I am now Just dealing with the grief.

Speaker 1:

I totally get that and my condolences for your loss. I know you lost your mother as well as some of your other sisters during that time, and so what I love is that you kind of carried a little bit of their spirit over into your menu. So tell us about Tracy Treats, where you're located and what you specialize in.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so we are located in Atlanta, georgia, and we specialize in the red velvet cupcake because my sister is the foundation of why I started with her red velvet recipe and how it, how I carry them. You know, with the product and you don't know this, you're not expecting this. I got that from you when you told the story about your mom and the things that you went through and how you connected that with your baking and I was like, wow, that makes sense. There has there is a common thread. You know we all have a story to tell and you often say you don't have to get too deep and too sappy, but you just make it all connect and that I took your example and that's how I did it with. You know the mother pacing me cobble cakes and Nisi red velvet. You know the Sean pink lemonade and even more ideas that you keep giving me and resources that just by being connected in the network. So that's how I ended up weaving that comment, making that common thread throughout. You know the baking.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I appreciate that because I've I'm so late you guys to. I'll tell you this funny story and I told Tristan when she first was my student she had followed me from her music page and post stuff and I would be like, look, you got to separate this and it never dawned on me who was. Her name was a theatrical pace, which makes sense because we're going to get into her involvement in theater. And then she shared a video of one of her sisters. Now I guarantee you most of you guys have probably seen a video of her sister, because they go viral all the time like crazy. But her sister has this habit of when she walks in the door she starts singing and her voice is so big and bold and beautiful and she was sharing that post and she's even gone viral. Remember one time she was just singing to a lady in Walmart.

Speaker 1:

Yes she and her videos went viral and when she shared it and I was like, yeah, girl, I miss her, and she was like, yeah, I miss my sister. And I was like sister, like like a real life sister, and I started at the name and I said wait a minute, oh my gosh. So I said this full time. I had a student that was a celebrity. It was so wonderful, just just so joyous.

Speaker 1:

So I love the fact that you keep the memory of your mom alive with the name of the cupcakes, because, yeah, those memories are one of the things that we are able to carry with us. So, aside from music, also, it's crazy because you just put out an album but you just wrapped up another show. And when we say show you guys, this young lady has won awards for her acting of the Susie Bass Award. She resides in Atlanta. She's won some amazing awards. You played silly in the color purple. Now you just wrapped up the Wiz, which was directed by my husband, but the Wiz for those of you guys I have a big crush it was directed by the young man who plays Maurice on Tyler Jerry's. Yes. So tell us, what was it like playing Glenda in the Wiz?

Speaker 2:

Okay, so first of all, brian is an amazing director. Like he's really brilliant, he's great at what he does. He strategically. He said I wanted someone that that represents another form of beauty, like there are different forms of beauty and we're used to seeing the skinny, light skin woman you know being the Glenda and that's fine because Lena Horn is iconic and that was an honor to play that role and even to, you know, glean from her. But he said I want to plus size woman, I want somebody that represents many other, many other women in America. So I felt honored that he had that vision for Glenda and that he chose me to play that role. It was so much fun Just knowing that someone so iconic had played it and I got to tell that story from my perspective. I was just head over heels.

Speaker 1:

Latrice, playing characters on Broadway, singing music, owning a bacon business the whole title of this podcast. Maybe you could share some light. How do you manage having multiple gifts, Because I can imagine you're busy a lot.

Speaker 2:

Extremely, I told someone, and the goal is actually to get to Broadway. Most of the shows that I've done now have been local and regional, but we are going to Broadway and I tell people all the time that it can look overwhelming to someone who is not graced to do a thing, because people like take, for instance, they can look at your design and be like, oh my God, how does she do that? But it comes easy to you because you're graced to do it. When we are graced to do certain things, it's just us doing what we do. But if you're trying to do something outside of your element, like you always tell us, find your niche, your niche.

Speaker 2:

I keep getting that word mixed up. You know, find your niche. Don't try to do something because the bakery around the corner is doing it. You're going to have a headache. It comes easy to them because they're graced to do that. So if you're graced to just do cookies, make the heck out of those cookies. You know those menages I talk about? Oh gosh. But that's how I'm able to do it, knowing that I'm graced to do it, and I just make sure I plan stuff carefully, double check the calendar to make sure you're not overbooking stuff and not doing stuff in haste. I always look at stuff when I'm winding down, so I'm not in a rush, you know, because a lot of times when you're hurry, you do, you know, miss, make some missteps or whatever. So I just try to stay in a place of peace and calm and know that I'm graced to do anything that comes my way.

Speaker 1:

Amen, that is definitely a true testament. And you mentioned something that's really important. You said calendar because too often, you know, in our industry, people have burnout, they're overbooking themselves and I'm sure, from a biblical standpoint, a lot of times that's because they feel well, if I'm not telling everyone yes, then I'm going to miss out. So miss out on something. And how do you handle that? Or what would be some advice? Do you ever feel like right now you're promoting your album?

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

So your baking schedule has decreased, but it hasn't gone away. That's still an amazing gift. How do you handle that feeling of I may miss out?

Speaker 2:

I have always I tell people this all the time I've always trusted God with my calendar because he is literally the master orchestrator. At the time that this album and the promotions got busy, I just wasn't getting a lot of orders. And it's not that I wasn't advertising on the page, it was like God was like no, I'm going to shut this down for you. You know, I didn't even have to shut the page down, it's just I didn't get a lot of orders. And then, even when I was getting orders, while I was doing the whiz, I was able to set it up, like with Ali, where I would create my schedule, where I would bake on one day, frost on another day, be a part of a network that teach you how to do these things that's what you have done for me and deliver on another day. And if it's a day that I can't deliver, I'll hire somebody to make that delivery for me.

Speaker 2:

So, just trusting God with my calendar and knowing that he has a plan for me, if you're calling me away from baking right now to promote this album, I'm not going to miss anything over there. When the album slow down and baking pick up, I'm not going to miss anything with the album. You know my time is in his hand. He has orchestrated this entire plan. I rest and I'm at peace. I didn't get to go to the Stellar Awards because I was busy doing other things, but I wasn't frantic and feeling like I'm missing out. I knew I was supposed to be where I was supposed to be Because he made the provision for me to be in that particular place.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I love that and I mean. You know, some of us can only dream. It's not like you've never not been to the stellar wars before.

Speaker 2:

Right, right.

Speaker 1:

You know no, but I totally get what you're saying Having a schedule, batch baking, but also having those boundaries as entrepreneur, to say this is my season, I'm going to show up here and I'm going to be okay. Yes, One thing that a lot of entrepreneurs struggle with that I wanted to touch on because this is a message that I love. Sometimes you see someone doing something and it might take off Like I know music to you, You've been in it for over 20 years. You guys had an amazing discography. Like everything has taken off in theater. You're so well at it.

Speaker 1:

But sometimes that can cause us to feel a certain type of way, and one of the things I love for anyone I'm definitely going to link her new album below in the show notes. However, Exodus the first one, there is a song called contentment. Yes, and what I love is that you have an interlude where you're being very honest, where you say you know, a friend called and told me about this good news when you were at a place where you know, you really didn't feel like seeing that person succeed. And I totally get that, because there are times where, especially you know how it is, we're posting on social media, we're trying to grow a business and we can feel so behind, and then we see all these other people doing all of these amazing things. It's like how do you have contentment with that? So tell me about that. How do you handle that as an entrepreneur?

Speaker 2:

I remember when I was writing that song, the prayer that I prayed, I was like God, I don't, I'm not happy for them and but I need you to teach me and show me how to. And in that he again, he took me back to knowing that I have a plan for you and nothing anybody else is getting it doesn't take away from the plan that I have for you. I have more than one car. I have more than one source of finances. You know I have more than one bakery, brick and mortar, building for my children. You know I have an abundance.

Speaker 2:

So just because somebody else is getting something doesn't mean it takes away from you or my plan for you changes. Know that I got yours and you're gonna get it. It's coming. So that was just something he had to teach me, like bit by bit, and I didn't get it overnight. It was because you can, you can be. It'll be tearing you up on the inside Like God, how much dues, how many dues I have to pay? Like, how long do I have to wait? But just knowing that, remembering the history that we have with him, that he has never left us alone, he has never left us without, he has never left us without instruction or provision or direction. He has always been there. Okay, I think I'll keep trusting you Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

And you're right. I say this all the time her win is not your loss. Mm-hmm, that's right, or, you know, we can all win at the same time, but honestly, there really is enough room for all of us. Like Atlanta has hundreds of thousands of people, there is no way, even my state, your country, whoever's listening. So, but I also love it Sometimes I look at it now when I see someone doing something and I'm like, wow, I had the idea to do that, or I've been working on that. Sometimes I think that's God showing me that it's possible, yes, that I should need to hurry up and finish the work.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, and you know what's interesting? I'll have to tell somebody. I believe, because I've seen it in my life God will give several people the same idea. It's just that he knows that each one of us, we're gonna execute it differently. So if you see somebody else doing something that you feel like God gave you they didn't steal that from you, he gave that to them as well you just stay focused and execute it in the way that he has given you to execute it, because they have their audience and you have yours. We're not all gonna be around the same people, so he need multiple people to do the same thing.

Speaker 1:

But in their way. That is so true, and in this time you talked about I know you had mentioned earlier, when you're playing in your plays the director that he had a vision for like a plus size. Yes, and although you are a curvy, I will say I love to be your size Lady. You have lost over 100 pounds, yeah, and you've been keeping off a great portion of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

How do you do that and still bake?

Speaker 2:

Okay. So now that's a good question. I tell people all the time the recipe is the recipe. I don't have to nibble, I don't have to sample, I don't have to taste. I created a quality control manual and the recipe is the recipe. That's something I have to tell myself, even though I'm like, ooh, I just gotta know. So I'll make sure this batch didn't come out different. No, the recipe is the recipe. So I keep my premier protein shake, especially when I'm doing it early in the morning. I keep my premier protein shake there with some ice and I sip on it. I keep my water with some ice and I sip on it. Sometimes I'll mix my coffee with my shake and make my own little cafe latte or whatever. So if I'm sipping on that, at least I'm making sure I'm getting my protein and nutrition in, even if I do grab a little something.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so cafe au lait.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I make my own little cafe au lait with the little premier. I love the. It's like cake batter flavor, it's so good with some dark coffee and it's just really nice. It's satisfying with all the right nutrients and it helps me to stay full and not feel hungry by the time. I do get a break after baking where I'm like binging on whatever. You know how that time can slide by. So I do that and before I was like making sure I was orange theory. I love orange theory, so I was there like six days a week but I had a neat injury. So I just try to make sure I'm moving and staying flexible and stretching now and definitely watching what I'm eating.

Speaker 1:

Wow, how long did it take to lose all the weight.

Speaker 2:

About a year. I'll tell people give yourself a year, because in that time you're just creating habits that you can literally sustain without all the no brand, no sugar, no meat, and I'm gonna do that for three weeks and it's like no. Just do some gradual stuff. I tell people all the time I was still going through the drive-through, but for like two weeks I would let's move one piece of the bun and then for the next week, no bun and we'll do fries with no ketchup and then eventually no fries, and then you just add things until it becomes easy and it becomes a habit, opposed to diving in with all of this no stuff. I just think it's. I think gradual changes help you to stay consistent and it helps the habits to stick. I like that. I like that.

Speaker 1:

So I'm gonna remember that myself as we were discussing previously, because I'm on a journey, also just trying to do better, and so that's so encouraging knowing that you're still able to keep it off even though you're around things like red, velvet and cake, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And even if I grab a cupcake, okay, get some water and don't get another one. That one tastes the same, it's fine, it ain't gonna get better. Now go get a salad or something, a Caesar or something. Balance the thing out. I like that.

Speaker 1:

I like that. So what was your new album? We mentioned it a little bit earlier, but now we're on volume two, exodus, the journey to obedience. Your first song is called it's Morning, which I love, yes, so tell us about that single and what it means to you, I feel like everybody can relate to this.

Speaker 2:

We, for like three years and during the pandemic not just my family, we all experienced a few losses a loss of income, a loss of social life, a loss of church, family, just a lot of losses. A loss of career, whatever relationship. But that was the MOUR in ING and God gave me what he gave to David in song 143. David was like look God, my enemy's trying to kill me. I'm tired. I need tomorrow morning to meet me with some good news. And that's what he said Let the morning bring me word of your unfailing love. So God is saying to all of us it is now our morning, m-o-r-n-i-n-g, our time of joy, our time to be restored and replenished, whatever we lost. You're going to get that and more and even better. So it's morning, it's morning, yes, it's morning.

Speaker 1:

Oh, thanks, chef, I'm going to link it below for all of you bakers that love to jam out and why you bake and listen. You'll love that song. But there is one song on your new album that I guess I would consider my theme song. You know I'm very big on we have to serve before we sell. I'm not believing that, and so you have a song called Let Us All Wash Feet. You asked the other day on your page what were people favorite. I was like let us all wash feet. Yes, you did, and it's so interesting.

Speaker 2:

That's actually going to be the second, the follow-up single, because that one is very near and dear to me as well. Again, I wrote that in 2017. I didn't know that in 2018 or 2019 that God was going to call me to a place where I would be a caregiver to my mother and would have to literally wash her feet for three years. So it didn't mean the same thing at the time that it means now. It's like God, this is what you have called us to do to a life of humility and servitude, and knowing that, regardless of what we accomplish and what our bank account looked like or what our careers look like, we are no better than one than the other. We are to humble ourselves and be of service.

Speaker 2:

What do you need? I'll carry your bag. You want some water? I'll go get you some water. You want me to fix your sandwich? I'll fix your sandwich. We are called to a life of servitude, and quickly. So many times, growing up, we were drilled about the act of feet washing in a communion service, opposed to the doing of feet washing. That's what I want to drive home to people with. That's what I want to drive home to people with this song. Let's do it and not just get caught up in the act of it.

Speaker 1:

Amen, you go, girl. I love that. And so what do you have coming down the pipeline? I know you're promoting the album. Where are some places that you will be before we even get to that? I have. Well, first one other question, because currently you're in DC, which is amazing. Tell us about the conference you attended here. I know you're getting good tips for the baking business.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, what's interesting? I haven't run into anyone in the baking industry yet and I'm gonna, if I get, pull somebody to the side that's on the board and figure out why I'm gonna get you up here or something. But they're giving us a lot of tips it's the US black chambers and just getting a lot of information about how the business, how it's being ran and why many of us aren't privy to a lot of the initiatives that are becoming of that are available, because a lot of red lining is happening and I'm learning how important it is to be connected with chambers because you can find out hand like firsthand information. He was saying a lot of business is folded during the pandemic mainly because they didn't have information. So being connected and being a part of the by black, by black directory so that we can keep our dollars in our community, so we can patronize one another, and that's free.

Speaker 2:

If you know that, I'm telling people, if you have a black business, get, get, get plugged in with that, with that directory, so people can know how. That's how. That's the only way we're going to be able to grow economically. But I'm going to be posting a lot of tips and information that I've been getting. I'm not an expert at it yet, but as I get the information I'm like definitely passing along, because I know a lot of black entrepreneurs.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and I definitely have. They've been doing the show for a while. I follow the page and they're always amazing at just the knowledge that they share and the tips and the resources which, honestly, can apply to any business.

Speaker 2:

But that's what they said.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, I definitely link the directory in case anyone is listening, because it is free in the show notes if someone wants to sign up. And so now with the album, what are some things that you have coming up in the pipeline for that?

Speaker 2:

I told someone that I'm open to whatever God want to bring my way, because I, with the acting, I want to say next is a Broadway show and with the music, I would love to hear it commercially, especially this morning, and let us all wash feet. I would love to be in TV and film, but, and with the, with the, with the cupcakes, I would love to be able to launch the shipping and just have that really thriving with the mother pace and me and baking therapy for senior citizens. But I'm so open because we never know how something is coming and what the next thing is going to be. So I'm open, I'm prepared to go either way, but I'm open, be prepared and stay open.

Speaker 1:

I love that and so what advice would you have for anyone else? Because I meet bakers who also have t-shirt businesses or candle businesses, or bakers who are also event planners or they also they do these other things. There's like serial entrepreneurs, yeah, gifts that they have that they just operate in. What advice would you have to anyone on how to just kind of manage all of those and stay afloat?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would definitely something we talked about earlier about keeping a calendar, being realistic with your time, listening to your body and staying hydrated and doing all of that and just knowing. Okay, even though you're graced to do so many things, use wisdom and saying it, you know what, like you said, like you said sometimes you don't have to, you don't have to get, leave a dollar for somebody else. You know something like that. You say you know you don't have to make all the money leave, leave a little bit on the table for somebody else. You know, but know, know what's priority and make sure you listen to your body and just keep a really good calendar and make decisions when you're in a place of calm and peace and not rushed or in a hurry and frustrated and tired.

Speaker 1:

We could definitely talk for hours, but I know I don't know what you, but I'm so happy that you were able to come and to share your your current music with us, but also about your baking business and just how you manage and do it all and wear all of these hats. But before I let you go, I have to play lightning round with you. Are you ready? Yes, already. What is your favorite color? Yellow. What is a dessert you cannot live without?

Speaker 2:

Chocolate chip cookies Sounds good.

Speaker 1:

Who is your celebrity crush?

Speaker 2:

Oh, george Stephanok, because Stephanopoulos, I can't think of his last name. He's a newscaster, but I think he's so cute. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1:

And let's see what is your favorite utensil in the kitchen.

Speaker 2:

My kitchen aid. Would that be it? Yeah, they, yeah, yeah. My yellow kitchen aid, the mixer yeah.

Speaker 1:

Love that, and what is your favorite book?

Speaker 2:

My favorite book, oh, my goodness. Oh, as a man thinketh, by Alan. It's a little booklet but it just, it just helps you to retrain your thinking and stay positive. And you know, yeah, as a man thinketh.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, awesome. I'll link that in the show notes as well. Yeah, trace, from the bottom of my heart, thanks so much for coming on the show and recording with us today. And tell everyone who wants to hear where can we get your album?

Speaker 2:

You can get it on any digital platform that you choose to stream, download or upload your music. It's everywhere Amazon, title, desert, apple music, itunes is everywhere. Spotify, spotify, yeah, that's where I listen to.

Speaker 1:

I love it. Thank you so much, beautiful, and I greatly appreciate you being here.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much. I love you and thank you for the network.

Speaker 1:

Oh you're more than what we love. Having you in our network, we're blessed. Yes, all right, you guys, how amazing was that? You know I know Trice is not along, like I stated in the show, because I meet so many of you guys who do other things, and I hope that listening to her share how she balances everything can give you just a little bit more clarity.

Speaker 1:

My scripture for today because I know Trice would love for me to share scripture comes from Acts 20, verse 35, which is, in every way, I showed you that by working hard like this we can help those who are weak. We must remember what the Lord Jesus said we are more happy when we give than when we receive, and I truly do believe that. So, whatever the gifts you have, just remember to continue to show up and to give those things so that we can use all our gifts and talents to bless others. You guys, I listen to Latrice, her album every single day since it came out. It is amazing.

Speaker 1:

I love to make sure I pour good things into my ear, into my spirit. That way it just gives me a little bit more joy and clarity as I go throughout my day. So, if you love good Christian music, contemporary gospel. Whatever, have you definitely check out her album it is in the show notes and special thanks to her as well for coming on again and just sharing everything that she's went through just by operating in so many different gifts and how she allows the Lord to use her. With all of that, I really do appreciate her testimony. That is it for this week, you guys. I hope this bless you. Take care and bye for now. You.